New Idols
(This post is part of a series. I realize that some of it will not make sense without the entire series, so bear in mind, when I’m done, you’ll have posts about Idols, Creature Conversion, Dust and Gems, and Dungeons. I can only post things that are through the testing process, so, please be patient with us while we finalize everything!)
IDOLS
IDOLS
The idols have been significantly overhauled. In addition to the major changes to the whole idol system (idols retained their names and some qualities, but there’s no 1:1 correlation between the old versions and the new), we were also looking at such a wholesale change in the creatures that we knew everyone would want to make at least some changes.
So, we’ve gone with the nuclear option. All idols will be removed and destroyed. (Do not panic! How we make that up to you will be in the next section!)
Here is how the new system works. In order to create an idol, you will need:
- Molds
- Cores (rarity based)
- Materials (now in only two flavors, “sun” or “moon”)
- Minerals (also rarity based)
Minerals themselves come in two types:
- “Type A,” found through regular gameplay, and available in all rarities.
- Type B, found primarily through special events, and themselves available in four specialities:
- Generic, all rarities
- Attacker, legendary/mythical rarities
- Defender, legendary/mythical
- Supporter, legendary/mythical
- Generic, all rarities
So, for example, in the new system there might be a new Rare Sun Tyr mold, one that would look good on a defender. To make the idol, this mold asks for one common core, four rare cores, two rare (type A) minerals, twelve sun materials, and some amount of gold. A Legendary Moon Tyr would require three epic cores, six legendary cores, five legendary Type A minerals, one legendary Defender mineral, and 110 moon materials.
By the way, a feature of the new system will be that when you dismantle an idol, it will give you back cores that are one level higher in rarity. Dismantle a legendary idol, get mythical cores!
Finally, idols now have both rarity and rank associated with them. A common creature can only use common idols, etc. And your creature’s rank must be equal to or higher than that of the idol you attach to it.
IDOL CONVERSION TOKENS
Once we decided on the nuclear option, it was time to do math. With our calculations, we have taken into account the rarity of the old molds, the number of materials you needed to create old idols, the rarity of the old materials themselves, what you had stockpiled, and more. The result: You will get a pile of idol conversion tokens in exchange for your old stuff. The conversion store will not necessarily have the same number of molds that existed in the original design. The new molds are in many cases more powerful than before.
The store (the general shop will have five tabs after the update, and the conversion tab is the one where you spend conversion currency) will offer all of the components in the new system. Again, there’s no direct correlation between the old system and the new. If you had twenty idols before the change, I can’t say how many idols you’ll have in the new. But we did try our best to ensure that you came out of the change with enough to get the same amount of _power_ (which, again, might not be the same raw number of idols) as before, if not more.
We have been testing the conversion with a small group of actual players, not paid focus groups or company employees. Because we’re still working on the changes, I can’t give you exact numbers. But this is the system you’ll see in the next update.
(Originally posted by Ratatosk the Squirrel)
(Originally posted by Ratatosk the Squirrel)
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By the way, a feature of the new system will be that when you dismantle an idol, it will give you back cores that are one level higher in rarity. Dismantle a legendary idol, get mythical cores! 🤔
You can't break our idols without returning gold, the goldstruggle is real.
If the cost is higher with the new idols, more gold has to be delivered, if less ...
An epic core is 1550 underworld tokens, the reward stands on 10 per fight. That's 150 fights. even if you would do 5 a day, which you don't cause the legendary take priority, that's a month for 1 core. AND YOU NEED 4 FOR 1 EPIC IDOL!! Then a buttload of other things.
This is insane, i made epic idols regularly before this patch. Now what..1 every half year?
You guys need to stop smoking whatever it is you're smoking.
Legend of Stagnant
The creature you slot this to will gain the following stats:
+8% block
+5% critical hit chance
+7 synchronisation strength bonus
+8 shape strength bonus
When the creature with this idol is used in a team, then Embla will also get the following bonuses as well:
+2 health
+1 barrier strength
+6 potency
Useful, right?
Now, before you buy it, you need to be aware of several things:
1. Each idol will now only fit a slot on a creature of the same potency. Legendary idols, like this one, can only be slotted on a legendary creature. Likewise, Epic idols are only for epic creatures, and so on. This is a change from before (when you used be able to use any idol on any creature provided it met the requirements of rank and type).
2. See that number below the mold in a square box? This is the minimum rank that the creature will need to be to use the idol. In this case, you need to be sure your creature is at least rank 5. It can be higher than this, but it won’t fit any creature rank 4 or less.
3. Each idol is aligned with either the sun or moon. Each creature can only have one idol of each type. The idols do NOT have to match each other and there is no bonus for making them match, or penalties for a non-match. The idol above is a sun idol.
4. Other restrictions. Some idols are restricted to a particular role (Attacker, Defender or Supporter). This one will only slot on a creature that has been defined as a supporter (check the relevant creature screen to make sure, as it is not always obvious). Many mold have no restrictions, just be careful not to be caught out.
5. Each mold can only be used to make one idol, but you’d guessed that already, right? If you want to make another, you’re gonna have to buy (or find) another mold.
6. Idols cannot easily be transferred from one creature to another or even just removed to be replaced. When you want to upgrade an idol, you have 2 choices; to remove it (requires 1 hammer) or to destroy it (free, and you may get back some materials - possibly even upgraded ones - but, you lose the gold you invested). Hammers are not prohibitively expensive (get them in Underworld shop), so don’t let that put you off but, equally, make sure you have a plan for your idols and creatures before you start.
7. Materials. Yep, you need to stuff your mold full of all sorts of exotic materials before you get your shiny new idol. These are:
Material: Sun or Moon, to match the idol alignment. The amount needed depends on the quality of the idol.
Cores: Idols need 3-4 cores of their own potency (Legendary cores for Legendary idols) and sometimes 1 core of the rank below (Epic for a Legendary). Common idols need just 3 common cores.
Framicite: You need 1-2 of these of the matching potency as well (common idols only need 1) and sometimes 1 of the next rank below.
A lot to take in, but it’s fairly straightforward once you get started. Once you’ve bought a mold, clicking on it will tell you what else you need.
Good Luck!
The game has now way too many types of materials and runes and so on, can’t you keep game resource type vers few (2 or 3 max) and make them useful for every type of upgrades instead. It is too complex and really lacks flexibility in the player decisions to invest in some upgrades.